HS:  But how can you tell what the audience is like if you
          are not very directly interacting with them?  How can
          you tell what the range of intelligence is?  I was
          wondering all the time during the performance what kind
          of audience you were pitching it at.

     DA:  You don't know what it is but you feel it out--at the
          beginning of a piece I have a tendency to be fairly
          exploratory, it doesn't start taking shape right away.
          There is a kind of prelude, you run a few scales to see
          how they work for you but also whether people find them
          intelligible, which may not mean that you will abandon
          them.  But you get a sense from body language whether
          people are with you or not with you and there are ways
          of playing it that are so completely intuitive I don't
          even know how I do it.  That is I spend a fair amount
          of time circling the material before plunging in, to
          achieve a readiness of mind and also a kind of tuning
          relationship--it's like tuning an instrument as a
          prologue.  In other words in standard orchestral
          situations they tune because they have got to reach a
          particular pitch, but I have freedom of tuning because
          no one tells me whether I need just tempered or equal
          tuning.
--from an interview with david antin 

now youre standing somewhere and im
     standing somewhere in semantic space    and theyre not the
 same place    because i find it hard to imagine us all or any of us
     standing in precisely the same place even in semantic space
      now supposing from where im standing "blue" looks pretty
     close to abstract    and from where youre standing it looks
    pretty close to concrete     i can imagine your position and you
   can imagine mine      how can we each get to imagine the others
     position    how come i can imagine your position as well
     as mine?     how do you get to imagine my position as well as
    yours?
--from david antins "tuning"

carl wilson on david antin's 'what it means to be avant-garde'

i did my english thesis on david antin’s talk poetry in 1997 and saw antin speak for the first time last year. so awesome.